Boot Camp + Group Fitness Classes: Why They Aren’t Ideal for Building the Body You Want

 

Today’s episode is for the woman who has been showing up, sweating through boot camps and circuit-style classes, but not really seeing the muscle definition or body composition changes she hoped for. If you have ever wondered why you feel fitter and more exhausted, yet your progress photos look the same, this conversation will bring a lot of clarity. Group workouts can be amazing for community, accountability, and conditioning, but they are not always built to truly change the shape of your body.

If you are craving structure, strength, and visible progress, you need something a little more intentional than random circuits and constantly changing workouts. In this episode, we unpack the difference between exercising and training, how to know what your current routine is actually doing for you, and simple ways to pair the classes you love with a strength plan that finally helps you build the body you want.

Here’s what you will learn:

• The difference between exercising for health and training for body composition
• Why variety and intensity alone do not create muscle growth
• The three key ingredients your body needs weekly: volume, frequency, and load
• How most boot camp and circuit classes fall short for strength and muscle goals
• Why recovery, stress, and fueling make or break your progress

This episode is your reminder that you are not unmotivated or broken. You may just need a clearer training signal, a bit more structure, and a plan that supports the goals you actually have for your body.

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What Soreness Really Says About Your Workouts
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Transcript

 (0:00) Hey there, beautiful human. You're listening to Embrace Your Real with me, Julie Ledbetter, (0:05) a podcast where I empower you to just be you. With each episode, I dish you a dose of real talk and (0:12) actionable advice for building your confidence, honoring your body, and unconditionally loving (0:17) your authentic self.

Stay tuned if you're ready to embrace your real. Let's get in. Let's go.

(0:27) Hello, and welcome back to another episode on the Embrace Your Real podcast. One question that I get (0:32) asked over and over again is, why was I struggling to see results from these group strength workouts? (0:38) You know, the ones where you rotate through stations or circuits, you get a mix of lifting (0:41) and conditioning. And sometimes women even ask me, like, I struggle to stay motivated while joining (0:45) one of these gyms.

Finally, help me build the body that I want. I get these questions a lot, (0:50) just because people are curious. They want to know.

And the answer to both of these questions (0:54) is kind of a little bit more complex than you might think. And that's exactly what we're going (0:57) to be diving into in today's episode. Because right now, a lot of us are reflecting on the (1:02) past year.

Maybe you've been consistent. You've been showing up multiple times a week. You've been (1:05) pushing yourself in every class.

You've been doing everything right, but you're looking in the mirror, (1:08) you're checking your progress photos, and you're like, why don't I see more change, right? Or maybe (1:12) you're on the other end of the spectrum. You've fallen off your routine, and you're craving that (1:16) community, that accountability, and energy that comes from those group workouts. You're maybe (1:20) thinking, is this what I need to finally stay consistent? And first off, I want you to know (1:25) that I get it.

I've been there. I've literally tried nearly every class out there. Some were (1:30) cardio-based, other leaned into more strength training.

And I love the community, the structure, (1:35) and the motivation that they provided. But after a few months, you start noticing something. Even (1:40) though you're working out really hard, you're showing up consistently, your strength isn't (1:44) really improving.

Your muscle definition isn't changing. And yes, you might be getting fitter, (1:48) you had great endurance, but your body composition pretty much stayed the same. (1:52) And that's when I think a lot of people realize that people who love these group workouts need (1:57) to understand that there's a big difference between working out and training, because while (2:01) these classes are incredible for accountability, for cardio, for overall health, they're not always (2:06) designed to progressively build muscle in a way that actually reshapes your body so that you can (2:11) build the body that you want.

And so that's why heading into the new year, I want you to get (2:15) clear on one question. Is joining a bootcamp style or group strength gym the answer to building (2:22) the body that you want? Because the truth is that these workouts can absolutely be part of (2:27) your plan, but only if you understand how to use them in the right way. And so in today's episode, (2:31) we're going to be unpacking exactly what's missing from most of these programs, how to (2:36) supplement them if you love them, and what kind of training actually leads to visible change.

(2:42) But first let me share the super sweet review. It comes from Lava Ab. She gave a five-star view and (2:47) said, just found you.

Wow. I just found this podcast randomly, except not because I don't (2:51) think anything is random, but God today. And it's exactly what it's been, what I've been missing.

(2:56) Encouragement and truth swirled with a dose of practical help. Thanks, Julie. Excited to keep (3:01) listening along.

I'm so grateful. I'm so thankful that you tuned into the podcast. I'm so thankful (3:06) that is helping you.

That is always my goal is to educate you, empower you in some way, (3:11) shape, or form. So thank you again for taking time out of your day to send in that review. (3:15) Okay.

Let's get right into it because the first thing I want you to understand is that exercise (3:19) and training are not the same thing. And one isn't better than the other. It really just depends on (3:23) your goals and what season you're in.

Exercise is about health. It keeps your body functioning well, (3:29) maintaining that cardiovascular health, metabolic balance, joint mobility, longevity. It's about (3:34) keeping your blood sugar stable, supporting your heart, improving your endurance, and keeping your (3:38) body moving so that you can age well and feel capable from day to day.

Exercise keeps you (3:43) healthy. It's what helps you to maintain where you're at. You know, stay active, manage those (3:48) stress levels, protect your long-term health.

But training though is a little different. Training (3:53) is intentional. It's structured.

It's goal-driven. It's when you show up with a plan that's designed (3:58) to help you build something, whether that's more strength, more muscle, more capacity, more (4:02) performance. Building the body that you want requires training.

And training can take you from (4:08) healthy to strong. It's like the next level, right? It's less about getting a good sweat and more about (4:14) creating consistent, measurable change. And this is where a lot of people, in my opinion, (4:19) get stuck because both exercise and training are valuable, but they do serve different purposes.

(4:25) If your goal is overall health, then exercise regularly is amazing. But if your goal is to (4:31) change your body to build more muscle, to improve your body composition, or actually see definition (4:36) and shape, then you need to just move beyond just exercising and actually start training because (4:42) your body doesn't change from doing random workouts. It changes through repetition, load, (4:46) proper programming, and progressive overload.

Your body is designed to adapt, but only if you (4:51) give it a consistent signal. And when you challenge your muscles with enough weight, enough sets, (4:56) enough frequency, then they are going to respond by getting stronger, denser, and more defined. (5:01) That's literally what training does.

But here's the first thing that I want you to understand is (5:06) that exercise and training are not the same thing. And one isn't necessarily better than the other. (5:11) It really totally depends on your goals and what season you're in.

So exercise, again, (5:16) is about moving your body. It's about sweating, boosting your mood, taking care of your overall (5:20) health. It's what helps you to maintain the results that you already have.

Keep your energy high, (5:25) stay consistent. Training, on the other hand, like I said, is intentional. It's structured.

(5:30) It's goal-driven. It's when you show up with a plan that's designed to help you build something (5:33) more strength, more muscle, more capability. So if you're in a season where you're maintaining (5:38) your body, you're enjoying movement and feeling good, exercising is perfect.

Keep doing it. But (5:43) if you're in a season where you really want to change your body, maybe you're postpartum like (5:47) I am, you want to build more muscle, improve your definition, actually reshape your physique, (5:52) then training is what you need. And here's why.

Because your body doesn't change from variety. (5:57) It changes from repetition, load, and progression over time. Let me say that again.

Your body (6:02) doesn't just change from variety. It changes from repetition, load, and progression over time. So (6:07) both exercising and training, they do matter, but you have to match the approach to the goal.

(6:12) If you want to maintain your health, keep exercising. If you want to transform your body, (6:17) start training. If you want to seize visible results, the kind where you start to notice (6:21) more definition, shape, and strength, your body needs three things every single week.

It needs (6:27) enough volume, it needs enough frequency, and it needs enough load. And let's kind of break that (6:32) down. So volume, this is the total amount of work that you're doing for a specific muscle group.

(6:36) Your reps multiplied by sets, multiplied by weight. Your frequency, how often are you training (6:42) that muscle group throughout the week? And then your load is how heavy you're lifting, the amount (6:47) of resistance that your muscles are actually pushing against. These three factors is what (6:52) is called training stimulus.

And if one is missing, your progress is likely going to stall. (6:57) And most women that I've talked to have one or two pieces dialed in, right? They're lifting weights, (7:02) load, they're consistent frequency, but they're not getting enough total volume from week to week (7:07) for their body to adapt. So what does enough actually look like? So if your goal is to build (7:13) muscle or definition, research and just practical coaching experience from both point to a kind of (7:18) a sweet spot is 10 to 20 hard sets per major muscle group each week.

So this means that for (7:25) your glutes, you're going to want to roughly have 10 to 20 sets of a lower body work spread across, (7:31) you know, two sessions per week. So for legs, you're going to want to have the same for your (7:36) back and shoulders, aim for 10 to 15 sets over one to two sessions for your shoulders, biceps, (7:42) chest, triceps. You're going to want to have about six to 10 quality sets per week for each of those.

(7:48) Now, does that mean that you have to do all that in one day? No, the key here is frequency. If you (7:54) hit a muscle group once a week with high volume, let's say 15 sets of legs in one day, you'll still (8:00) likely see progress, but it might be slower. Most people see better results training each muscle (8:05) group, you know, two to three times, one to two for other muscle groups with a moderate amount (8:11) of volume each day.

For example, you're doing three to five sets per movement spread over (8:16) multiple workouts. That frequency is going to give your muscles a more consistent signal to grow. (8:21) Plus you'll recover better between sessions, which means that you can train harder each time that you (8:26) do have a session.

And this is where, in my opinion, bootcamp style classes oftentimes miss (8:31) the mark, not because they're bad, but because they're not built for progression. Most are (8:36) structured around variety and intensity, not volume or overload. So you might see like leg day (8:42) or strengthen core on the calendar, but even on those strength days, you're often only doing one (8:47) or two sets of a given exercise before moving on to something else.

And because the movements (8:52) rotate every week, you're rarely hitting the same muscles in the same way often enough to (8:56) stimulate the adaptation. So let's say that you do a 45 minute class that includes, you know, squats, (9:02) lunges, pushups, deadlifts. Those are all great movements, but maybe you only spend, you know, (9:07) five to seven minutes total on each.

That's likely not enough volume per muscle group to trigger that (9:13) visible change to actually build muscle tone and strength. You're going to need that consistent (9:18) repeated exposure to the same key movements, squats, deadlifts, presses, rows, hip thrusts (9:24) done for multiple sets around three to four reps, around eight to 12 at some sort of challenging (9:31) weight. And this is not oftentimes like time, you know, in a lot of these boot style workouts, (9:37) it's like, all right, we're going to do this movement for a minute and 30 seconds.

We're (9:41) going to see how many we can do. And then the next moment, all right, we're going to do this (9:44) movement for a minute and 20 seconds. We're going to see how many, like, it's okay to have those (9:49) movements, you know, have AMRAPs every once in a while, but you also want to have programmed (9:54) movements where you're like, I am doing eight of these and I'm going to try because I'm only doing (9:59) eight, I'm really going to go heavy, or I'm going to try and go 10 to 12.

And because I'm doing 10 (10:04) to 12, I'm going to go heavy, but not to my like total max. Right. And so really having those (10:10) programmed intentionally is really important.

And as you repeat these movements week after week, (10:14) gradually increasing the load and intensity as your body adapts. And this is how your muscles (10:19) are going to grow. This is how your shape is going to change.

And it's not about shocking (10:23) your body with new workouts. It's about sending a clear, repeated signal like, Hey, this movement (10:28) matters, get stronger here. For example, inside my movement with Julie community, we may do different (10:33) variations of exercises, but the core of the movement stays the same.

And this is to ensure (10:37) that you are able to progress from week to week. And so let's quickly recap here. So when you (10:42) combine all three, that's volume, frequency, and load, you're going to be creating a perfect (10:47) environment for change.

You're going to start noticing that your workouts feel different. (10:50) You're not just moving, but you're actually training. And that's the shift that most women (10:54) need to make and see the results.

Because again, your body is so smart. It doesn't respond to (11:00) random stress. It responds to consistent, repeated, progressive stress.

And that's the difference (11:04) between exercising and training. So if you've been showing up consistently, but just not seeing (11:09) progress, it's not because your body's broken or your hormones are off. I mean, that might be an (11:13) issue, but more likely than not, it's because your body needs a clear, more consistent signal to (11:19) adapt.

And once you give it that enough reps, enough sets, enough load on a frequency, everything (11:24) starts to change. Your muscles get stronger, your metabolism revs up, your shape starts to shift. And (11:29) more importantly, you start to feel proud of what your body can do, not just how it looks.

That's (11:33) what real training is all about. Now, I want to be clear. This isn't to bash the group workouts.

(11:38) Like this is not, this is not an episode where I'm just going to sit here and bash them. I love (11:43) group workouts. If you love group workouts, then this can be an incredible part of your (11:48) fitness journey.

The goal is just to help you understand what's missing so that you can make (11:52) them work for you. So how do you know if your current classes are giving your body enough to (11:56) see change? Here's a couple of questions to ask yourself. Question number one, are you repeating (12:00) the same key lifts weekly? Movements like squats, deadlifts, hip thrusts, presses, rows.

Those should (12:07) show up regularly in your training. And if every class feels random, new moves, new formats, new (12:12) focus, your body isn't getting a chance to progressively improve. I want you to think of it (12:17) like studying for a test.

If you switch subjects every day, you're going to feel busy, but you (12:22) won't master any one thing. Your body is going to work the same way, right? If you want to get (12:26) stronger glutes, you're going to have to keep giving them the same signals over time, not just (12:32) hit them once or twice and move on, right? So if your gym's programming changes every single day (12:37) and you rarely repeat lifts, you're likely exercising, not training. Question number two (12:42) to ask yourself is, are you tracking your progress? In a structured strength program, you'll know (12:47) exactly what you did last week, and you're going to try and beat that even if it's a little.

And (12:51) that's how your muscles are going to grow. That's how strength builds. If your workouts constantly (12:55) change, or if you don't have time to record weights or reps, there is no way to really (13:00) apply progressive overload.

And I know that sounds small, but that's the secret to results that most (13:05) women are missing. You don't have to double your weights every week. You just need to track and (13:09) make small, consistent increases over time.

And if the classes that you're in don't give you the (13:14) space to do that, you're staying fit, but not necessarily changing your body or helping you (13:18) build the body that you want. Question number three, do you leave class feeling exhausted or (13:24) stronger? There's a big difference between tired and trained. Leaving a workout completely wiped (13:30) doesn't automatically mean that you made progress.

It oftentimes means that you created fatigue, (13:35) not adaptation. A truly effective training session will challenge you, but you'll walk out feeling (13:40) capable and energized, not destroyed. So if you're constantly sore, exhausted, or struggling to (13:46) recover, that's a sign that your workouts are too focused on intensity and not enough structure.

And (13:50) honestly, this is where a lot of women get stuck. We're taught to equate harder with better, but (13:55) your body doesn't change from how hard you work. It changes from how smart you work.

So if you've (13:59) answered no to any of these questions or most of these questions, those group workouts are probably (14:05) fantastic for your overall fitness and consistency, but they're likely not enough to create visible (14:10) long-term body composition change. But the good news is you don't have to quit the workouts that (14:15) you love. You just have to fill in the gaps.

So let's kind of talk about what that actually looks (14:20) like in practice. If you love your classes, keep them. I would never tell you to stop doing (14:24) something that helps you move consistently and stays motivated, but if you want to build strength (14:29) and shape your body and see more visible progress, you're going to need to add a little bit more (14:33) structure outside of those classes.

And here's how I'd recommend doing that. So step number one (14:38) is to add a lower body training day. So I want you to dedicate one day a week to a focused strength (14:45) training for your legs and your glutes.

Pick three to five compound movements. Think things (14:49) like squats, whether that's sumo squats or goblet squats or suitcase squats, hip thrusts, RDLs, (14:55) which is Romanian deadlifts, lunges. I want you to do three to four sets of each staying in the eight (15:00) to 12 rep range.

This rep range is often called the hypertrophy range, and it's where your muscles (15:06) build strength and size most efficiently. So each week, I want you to try to add a little bit more (15:11) load or just simply try to improve your form. If you do this consistently for eight to 12 weeks, (15:17) you are going to feel the difference, not just in your strength, but how your body looks and performs.

(15:22) If you don't know what an effective leg day workout looks like, I want you to just (15:27) either go to my Instagram page, Movement With Julie. You'll find a ton of leg days that I share on my (15:33) Instagram or Pinterest or Facebook or to talk wherever you consume content, or you can go into (15:39) my Movement With Julie community, and you'll get a workout programmed for you every single week. (15:44) So you'll have five brand new workouts that are programmed for you, but I carefully program a new workout (15:48) weekly so that you don't have to think about the reps.

You don't have to think about the sets, (15:52) the load, the volume. All you have to do is open the app, pick the workout, whether it's a 30 minute, (15:56) 60 minute, and know that you're giving your body exactly what it needs to change. Step number two (16:01) is to add one upper body day.

So I want you to focus again on those compound movements, presses, (16:06) rows, pull downs, pushups, aim for, again, three to four sets, eight to 12 reps, increasing the (16:12) weight slightly each week if possible. But most women do shy away from upper body training because (16:18) they're afraid of getting bulky, but that literally, you guys, could not be further from (16:22) the truth. Building upper body strength enhances your overall shape.

It improves your posture. (16:27) It just helps you perform better in every other lift. And remember that strength in your upper body (16:32) also supports your lower body too.

You'll find your squats, your planks, your carries just feel (16:37) stronger when you've built muscle up top. And again, if you don't know what an effective upper (16:41) body looks like, you can go online, go to my Instagram movement with Julie. You'll find some (16:46) upper body workouts or go to my movement with Julie community, my demo only program, sign up.

(16:50) And again, I carefully program it for you. So literally all you have to do is open it up and (16:56) you can trust that the program is going to check all the boxes that you need to see those results. (17:01) Step number three, keep your favorite group classes for conditioning and full body workouts.

(17:05) So use your bootcamp style workouts, you know, two to three days a week for cardio endurance, (17:10) full body training and community. Let them be your fun days. The ones where you boost your energy, (17:15) keep your consistency high.

This combination is going to give you the best of both worlds, (17:19) structured, progressive training that builds your shape and your body and high energy workouts that (17:24) keep you motivated and connected to your community. Step number four is to track, (17:28) rest and repeat. The last piece of this puzzle is really tracking your progress and respecting (17:34) recovery, right down your weight, your reps, your notes.

After every training session, (17:39) you'll be amazed at how empowering it feels to look back and see the tangible proof of your growth. (17:44) Please, please, please though, don't underestimate rest. This is why I said you have to respect that (17:49) recovery.

Your muscles grow when you're recovering, not when you're training, take at least one full (17:54) rest day per week and make sure that you're feeling enough to support your training, (17:58) which we'll talk about more in a minute. But before we wrap up, we have to talk about (18:01) something I see all the time. And it's one of the biggest reasons why women hit plateaus.

(18:05) You love your workout classes. You love the endorphin rush. So you go hard five, six, (18:10) sometimes even seven days a week.

And at first that feels great. You're motivated. Your energy (18:13) is high.

You feel like unstoppable, but then in a few weeks or a few months, things start to shift. (18:19) You're tired. You're sore all the time.

Your sleep is off. Your appetite is either through the roof (18:23) or it's completely gone. You start noticing that you're holding on more water, maybe gaining fat (18:27) around your midsection or what you think is fat, even though you're working out more than ever, (18:32) right? That sounds familiar.

This is what happens when high intensity training is not balanced with (18:38) proper recovery and nutrition. And here's what's really going on. Your body doesn't differentiate (18:42) between the types of stress, right? Whether it's emotional stress, it's lack of street sleep, (18:47) it's under eating, it's doing six high intensity workouts a week.

It all registers the same in your (18:54) nervous system. And when that stress becomes chronic, your cortisol levels, which is your (18:58) primary stress hormone, that's going to stay elevated. And when cortisol is constantly high, (19:02) your body shifts into protection mode.

It holds onto fat, especially around your belly and struggle. (19:08) And you struggle to build that muscle. Your recovery is going to slow down your energy (19:12) tanks, your hormones take a hit.

And this is why more isn't better. Better is better. If you love (19:18) high intensity workouts, I am not telling you to stop.

I am just encouraging you to balance them (19:23) with slower intentional training days. And here's what that might look like, right? Two strength (19:28) training days where you focus on specific muscle groups, progressive overload, and proper rest in (19:33) between sets. Two bootcamp or circuit classes for cardio and community.

One active recovery day, (19:38) like walking or cycling or mobility work. And then one full rest day. This kind of balance is (19:45) going to give your body the space to recover, to rebuild and actually respond to your efforts.

(19:50) When you do this, your energy is going to improve. Your strength is going to skyrocket (19:54) and your body composition starts to shift and you stop feeling like you're fighting against (19:58) your own body. And of course you can't talk about recovery without talking about fuel, (20:03) because if you're lifting weights and you're training with intention, you need to be eating (20:07) enough to support that muscle growth.

That means getting into and having enough protein, (20:12) carbs and total calories, not under eating out of fear of undoing your hard work. So many women are (20:18) stuck in this cycle of working harder and eating less, and it's really wrecking their metabolism (20:22) and their progress. If you want to build muscle, if you want to burn fat, your body needs fuel.

(20:28) And this is again, where macro accounting comes in. It helps you to understand exactly what your (20:32) body needs to feel strong, to feel energized, supported through every season. When you combine (20:37) proper training with proper fueling, everything is going to change.

Your strength sessions feel (20:42) more powerful. You recover faster, your mood stabilizes, and you finally see the progress (20:48) that you've been chasing. So here's the truth.

You don't need to give up your favorite workouts. (20:52) You don't need to even work harder. You just need to train smarter.

If you love the motivation and (20:58) the community that group workouts bring, keep that energy, just add the structure and consistency (21:02) that your muscles need to adapt. Because when you do, you'll stop wondering why your body (21:07) isn't changing and you'll start watching it respond week after week. And then you'll realize (21:11) it was never about doing more.

It was about doing something that actually works. Let's quickly (21:17) recap. I want to bring us back to the core of today's conversation, because I just want to (21:23) remind you that you're not behind.

You're not missing discipline or motivation. Your body (21:27) has simply been responding to the type of training signal that you've been giving it. (21:31) So if you want to build strength and see more shape and definition, here's what truly matters.

(21:35) You need to train with intention. This means meaningful progress that comes from repeating (21:39) the same key lifts, not constantly changing those movements just to feel challenged. You need (21:45) progressive overload.

That's essential to see visible change. Your muscles need that clear (21:50) signal to grow. And this is what happens when you increase your weight, your reps, and control over (21:56) time.

You are going to get stronger. You are going to start to see visible change. Volume and (22:01) frequency matter.

Hitting a muscle group more than once per week with enough total sets is what (22:06) is going to drive adaptation and strength. Your workouts should make you feel stronger, not just (22:11) tired. Again, there is a difference between fatigue and progress.

You want training that (22:16) builds you up, not burns you out. And lastly, group classes can absolutely have a place. I want (22:22) you to use them for energy, for motivation, for accountability, and for community.

And then add (22:27) structured strength training to create that change that you're working towards. When you shift from (22:32) simply exercising to training with purpose and structure, trust me when I say your body's going (22:37) to respond. You will start seeing the definition that you've been working for.

You will feel (22:41) strength increasing week after week. You'll move differently with more confidence, presence, (22:45) and ease. If you love today's episode, I know you will also love episode 541, what soreness really (22:51) says about your workouts.

I will go ahead and link that in the show notes below so that you can (22:55) easily go check that out. And if you're thinking, okay, I get this now, but I actually need to put (23:00) it into practice. That's exactly what my two programs are for.

My Movement with Julie is (23:04) my dumbbell only workout app. It's going to give you weekly strength training that's already (23:09) structured for progressive overload. No more guessing how many sets, how many reps, which weight (23:14) to choose.

You just show up, you follow the workout, and you trust that it's going to move (23:18) you forward if you stay consistent. And if you're realizing, okay, I got the training down, but I need (23:24) help fueling my body, that is going to play a critical role as well. And this is why I created (23:29) my Macro Academy and Simple Online Academy.

This is going to help you teach you how to eat in a way (23:35) that supports your muscle growth, to support your recovery, your energy, and your long-term (23:40) progress. No restriction, no perfection, just confidence and nourishment. So if this episode (23:45) supported you in any way, shape, or form, I would just encourage you to send it to a friend.

And (23:50) also you can check out both of those programs in the link below for my Macro Academy and Simple (23:54) Online Academy or my Dumbbell Only Movement with Julie app. I will go ahead and link those again (23:59) down below. But if you haven't already, could you just take a moment to follow the show and also (24:04) leave a rating and review? That would mean the absolute world to me and our team.

Just kind of (24:07) know how the podcast is helping you, maybe one specific episode or just in general. We would (24:11) love to hear it, but that is all that I have for today's episode. I love you so dang much.

I mean (24:16) it. I'll talk to you in the next one. All right, sister, that's all I got for you today, but I have (24:29) two things that I need you to do.

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The most beautiful women that I have met in my life are the ones who are completely confident (25:02) and secure in being authentically themselves. Remember that beauty goes so much deeper than (25:09) the surface, so go out there and embrace your real because you're worth it.

 
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